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Cry Me A Riverbend II

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

What's the Deal with Muslims and Pigs

Cropped image from Cox&Forkum

I realize that pigs are unclean in Islam, but...well, lets start with this event:
Police Investigate Ham Incident At School

April 19, 2007

LEWISTON, Maine --Police are investigating as a possible hate crime an incident in which a ham steak was placed in a bag on a lunch table where a group of Somali students were sitting.

A Lewiston Middle School student was suspended after the incident, which happened April 11.

Superintendent Leon Levesque said the incident is being treated seriously and police are investigating. The center for the Prevention of Hate Violence is working with the school to devise a response plan.

The incident is the second of its kind in Lewiston in recent months. Last summer, a man rolled a pig's head into a mosque in Lewiston, which has a large Somali population. A court later ordered the man to stay away from the mosque.

Here is an article in the local Lewiston newspaper, which I think places the incident in a larger context of harassment toward the Somali students based on their religion.

Still, how an act can be a "hate crime" if it wouldn't be a crime at all otherwise is beyond me, but I never understood hate crime laws anyway.

Which brings me to the question of Muslims and pigs. Why is it that people from Islamic cultures so famously can be so gulled by pigs and pig by-products. Ham is also forbidden to Jews as well, but only for eating. No one would think to offend a Jew with a pig. He would use symbols like swastikas that carry an underlying threat of violence. There isn't the notion that Jews become unclean before God because a pig (or a pig effigy) is near them.

I offer the famous British Piglet ban.

In Texas, a Muslim congregation built a mosque next to a pig farm and then tried to drive the farmer away. So he responded by holding pig races every Friday.

These are a few among many minor incidences (we'll leave aside for now the major ones) that founds the bias among Westerners that people from Islamic cultures are irrational (that they attach a magical import to symbols and offenses), and treat them appropriately ("Don't offend them, they might kill someone.")

If I'm missing a larger issue, I sure wish someone would point it out to me.

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  • Yeah, people and pigs are strange.

    One time I cooked a pork dish, and later convinced this Jewish guy that is was chicken. It was lathered in a sweet/sour sauce. He said it tasted great.

    Boy was he pissed! when I told him what it really was.

    People and pigs. I don't get it either.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:25 PM  

  • The Texas pig farmer is great!

    By Blogger Eagle, at 3:20 PM  

  • We ran a restaurant in Boston for years, back in the days when the Catholics couldn't eat meat on Fridays. One of our favorite tricks was to put ground pork in the seafood chowder and tell anyone who asked that it was clam bits. We had all those Christians chowing down the meat while the pope was saying they'd go to hell for it. Too funny, man! I wonder how many are in hell right now, wondering how they got there.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:31 PM  

  • Originally, this blog was about what a great thing the US was doing by bombing, destabilizing, invading and occupying Iraq -- and how ungrateful some Iraqis, such as Riverbend, were not to run out in the street with flowers and candy to greet their invaders.

    But now we see the truth of it. This blog really serves those who have zero respect for Iraqis, zero respect for people of other cultures or faiths. Just like this war was started by people who claimed to be trying to protect America (from imaginary bogeymen) and later modified that to claiming to be trying to spread freedom and democracy.

    As so many of us predicted all along, it was all a bunch of hoo-ey. The blogger here wouldn't understand the concepts of freedom and democracy if it bit it on the ass.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:03 PM  

  • [Anonymous] But now we see the truth of it. This blog really serves those who have zero respect for Iraqis

    Yawn. I can't decide whether you think all Iraqis are Muslim or if all Muslims are radicals (both presumptions are wrong).

    I post mostly at Iraqi Bloggers Central these days. I recommend you check it out. IBC was started the same day as this blog, and for the same reason. I'm not going to regularly maintain two separate, virtually identical blogs. Consequently, I save this post of general thoughts that occur to me regarding the general war with radical pan-Islamists.

    I post here now about as often as Riverbend posts at her blog.

    Go get stuffed.
    (and get a name)

    By Blogger CMAR II, at 1:02 PM  

  • [scott rutledge and Anonymous #1]

    I think you guys have missed the point. Did you see the link about Piglet being banned to protect Muslim feelings? Did you see click the link about the pig farmer being harassed by local Muslims? The issue is not dietary restrictions in religion. I think I was pretty clear about that, so it must be you guys who are dense.

    I think sneaking pork into the food of Muslims or Jews, or meat into the food of vegans is childish, quite unfunny joke.

    By Blogger CMAR II, at 1:07 PM  

  • Not jokes! Scientific experiments.

    Such bans are relics of the days of nomadic culture, when preservation of foodstuffs, especially pork, was iffy. To the superstitious Semites I say: Get over it! Refrigeration is here!


    By Blogger BrianFH, at 2:44 PM  

  • "Oh d-d-dear" hahahaha I laughed for about a minute over that!
    Funny post. That texan farmer is hilarious also.
    The whole thing is so stupid. Its why I am an athiest!

    By Blogger lelly, at 1:27 PM  

  • very good blog congratulations
    regard from Catalonia Spain
    thank you

    By Blogger Té la mà Maria - Reus, at 12:50 PM  

  • it is overblown.. touchign a pig isn't an apocalyptic sign but it's dirty.. of course, when a parent gets angry he/she will do things which may be unreasonable..

    similarly, emotions can be deliberately provoked when people have no respect for other people's beliefs and sanctities.. why would 5 danish newspapers re-print offensive cartoons? they have no idea what freedom of speech really means..

    By Blogger Little Penguin, at 2:44 PM  

  • CmarII, First time commenter. I have previously posted on ITM for a couple of years. Yours is an interesting post. My assumption as it related to the Pork and Islam was that of triginosis,(sp) the disease one gets from undercooked pork..could be wrong but, that's what I have been led to believe. It is also true with the Jewish religion, all cloven footed animals are unclean and as such cannot be eaten. I believe it is also in the Old Testiment. Another thing, while I was in Turkey, Many moons ago, My landlady would wash a chicken inside and out after cleaning it with Lye soap. the rinse it throughly...Don't know the significance of that with Islam also...Didn't effect the taste any.....stay well......

    By Blogger Tapline, at 8:55 PM  

  • Islam scum are afraid of pigs because the pigs are superior beings to them..more brains than islam scum..and when killed they are USEFUL..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:02 AM  

  • Muslims dont eat pork because to them its cannablism.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:13 AM  

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  • Try this one :

    If a Boar or Pig was equipped with a voice, hands and could stand up straight with cybernetics, named the race 'Gammorean' or 'Khinzirim' THEN decided to convert to Islam or Judaism.

    What would the Synod or Mullah Council or Supreme Grand Ayatollah say? Of course the same cyber-boar could well go on a genocide against the above faiths but that could well be because of such a refusal or the sheer pathos of the above communities adverse to pigs.

    Any DNA splicing and cybwernetics scientists want to try the above AND perhaps even breed 'Squiggoths' as well? Imagine the horror if a piglike race' wanted to carve themselevs ANOTHER country in the Middle East to to be less controversial in USA. How about an Israel sized District Nine in either of the above?

    District Porksus! Heres some ideas : i) the boffin and female pigs are the pinkish hairless tuskless types, ii) the warrior boars are the hairy tusked ones iii) their priests would be potbellied with 2 faces or 2 heads.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:46 AM  

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